{"id":1691,"date":"2025-05-29T07:59:53","date_gmt":"2025-05-29T07:59:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tactical-dailynews.com\/?p=1691"},"modified":"2025-05-29T07:59:53","modified_gmt":"2025-05-29T07:59:53","slug":"dying-on-the-vine-failed-cartridges-of-the-modern-era","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tactical-dailynews.com\/?p=1691","title":{"rendered":"Dying On The Vine: Failed Cartridges Of The Modern Era"},"content":{"rendered":"<div> <!-- image --><\/p>\n<div class=\"td-post-featured-image\">\n<figure><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">In one way or another, all 10 of these cartridges are failures.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-not-every-design-ends-up-being-successful-here-we-discuss-dead-or-dying-cartridges-of-the-modern-era\"><strong>Not every design ends up being successful. Here we discuss dead or dying cartridges of the modern era.<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>A little more than a decade ago, I edited <em>Gun Digest\u2019s 13th Edition of Cartridges of the World<\/em>. If you\u2019re unfamiliar with that book, it\u2019s essentially an encyclopedia of metallic cartridges. I\u2019m not sure how many cartridges the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gundigeststore.com\/product\/cartridges-of-the-world-17th-edition\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">latest volume<\/a> covers, but the 13th Edition contained the history and specifics for more than 800. Some of those cartridges were, by at least some measure, failures.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"660\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-handgun.jpg\" alt=\"5 failed cartridges handgun\" class=\"wp-image-298432\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-handgun.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-handgun-300x194.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-handgun-768x496.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-handgun-150x97.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-handgun-696x450.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-handgun-650x420.jpg 650w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">In one way or another, these five handgun cartridges are failures, too. (Left to right: .32 H&amp;R Magnum, .45 Super, .356 TSW, .45 GAP and .30 Super Carry.)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>What makes a metallic cartridge a failure? It could be because shooters failed to grasp the cartridge\u2019s intended application, or it could be that the manufacturer failed to effectively convey that message. Sometimes manufacturers fail to divine what the shooting public really wants, or they gambled on past successes with a similar cartridge. On occasion, a cartridge might be too much of a good thing or possibly competitive rules change and neutralize an edge a new cartridge might have had. There are a lot of reasons for a cartridge to be a commercial failure, but that alone does not mean they are a ballistic failure.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle.jpg\" alt=\"5 failed cartridges rifle\" class=\"wp-image-298433\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle-670x420.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle.jpg\" alt=\"5 failed cartridges rifle\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-298433\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-failed-cartridges-rifle-670x420.jpg 670w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Many rifle cartridges have failed to gain mainstream acceptance, and here are five that failed to make the cut.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Here\u2019s a look at 10 cartridges that, for various reasons, failed to become popular. It does not mean these are bad cartridges, so if your favorite is on the list, don\u2019t waste your time sending hate mail. The truth is that all these cartridges are very good at their intended purpose; it\u2019s just that most folks could care less.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-307-winchester\"><strong>.307 Winchester<\/strong><\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester.jpg\" alt=\"307 winchester\" class=\"wp-image-298422\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester-670x420.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester.jpg\" alt=\"307 winchester\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-298422\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/307-winchester-670x420.jpg 670w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Even though the .307 Winchester essentially duplicates the original ballistics of the .30-06 from a traditional lever-action rifle, it failed to catch on.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The .307 Winchester is just a .308 Winchester with a rim to better work in Winchester\u2019s 1894 lever-action rifle. Winchester created a special Angle Eject version of their 94 to house the .307, and with it you could mount a riflescope directly over the action. I bought the first one I saw, hunted with it and handloaded for it. The .307 will push a 150-grain bullet to 2,700 equaling the ballistics of the original 30-06 Springfield load. The problem was that as good as these ballistics are, they were still from a traditional lever-action rifle. Most of what everyone wants to do with a traditional lever-action rifle, you can do with the 30-30 Winchester.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Year of Introduction:<\/strong> 1982<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reason for Failure:<\/strong> Ballistically outperformed the practical application of the rifle Winchester created it for.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-45-super\"><strong>.45 Super<\/strong><\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super.jpg\" alt=\"45 super\" class=\"wp-image-298424\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super-670x420.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super.jpg\" alt=\"45 super\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-298424\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-super-670x420.jpg 670w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The .45 Super pistol cartridge might have just been too much of a good thing.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>Gun World<\/em> magazine editor Dean Grennell developed the .45 Super as a more powerful version of the .45 Auto. Because it\u2019s loaded to a maximum pressure that\u2019s 5,000 psi more than .45 Auto +P ammunition, it has about a 250-fps velocity advantage. You can convert most .45 Auto pistols to .45 Super with a new barrel that has a fully supported chamber and a stiffer recoil spring. But the additional velocity comes with about 40 percent more recoil. Buffalo Bore and Underwood Ammunition still load for the .45 Super. Interestingly, it is a shortened 451 Detonics case, which was based on the .45 Winchester Magnum case, which is almost identical to the .45 NAACO cartridge case. North American Arms Corporation\u2019s created the .45 NAACO for the Brigadier pistol they designed to meet Canadian service handgun requirements. Talk about a family of failures.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Year of Introduction:<\/strong> 1988<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reason for Failure:<\/strong> Too much of a good thing.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-356-winchester\"><strong>.356 Winchester<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>As a companion to their .307, Winchester introduced the .356 Winchester, which offered ballistics almost identical to the .358 Winchester. I thought it would become fantastically popular. After all, it\u2019s suitable for anything walking around in North America. But, apparently, hunters looking for a large-caliber traditional lever action with more power than a .35 Remington, wanted larger caliber bullets too. The .356 could never compete with the .444 Marlin, .45-70 Government or even the much older and ballistically similar .348 Winchester.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Year of Introduction:<\/strong> 1982<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reason for Failure:<\/strong> Hunters wanted a larger caliber to hunt big critters with a traditional lever gun.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-32-h-amp-r-magnum\"><strong>.32 H&amp;R Magnum<\/strong><\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"660\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3.jpg\" alt=\"32 caliber 3\" class=\"wp-image-278369\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3-300x194.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3-768x496.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3-696x450.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3-650x420.jpg 650w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"660\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3.jpg\" alt=\"32 caliber 3\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-278369\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3-300x194.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3-768x496.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3-696x450.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/32-caliber-3-650x420.jpg 650w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><\/figure>\n<p>With some help from Federal, Harrington &amp; Richards introduced the .32 H&amp;R Magnum, which is a .32 Smith &amp; Wesson Long with a slightly longer case that\u2019s loaded to a slightly higher pressure. It was marketed as a lighter-recoiling replacement for the .38 Special. It recoiled less, but its terminal performance did not measure up. In truth, the .32 H&amp;R is a great trail\/hunting cartridge for revolvers, with more <em>umph<\/em> than a .22 Magnum but less recoil than the .38 Special. I\u2019ve owned at least one .32 H&amp;R revolver since 1984, and I\u2019ve used them a lot. The cartridge has always had a cult following and is probably the most successful cartridge on this list. Fortunately, Federal has not forgotten it; they just introduced two new loads for it. If you love this failure as much as I do, understand it\u2019s just hanging on by its cartridge rim.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Year of Introduction:<\/strong> 1984<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reason for Failure:<\/strong> Initial bad marketing and niche application.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-356-tsw\"><strong>.356 TSW<\/strong><\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw.jpg\" alt=\"356 tsw\" class=\"wp-image-298425\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw-670x420.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw.jpg\" alt=\"356 tsw\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-298425\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/356-tsw-670x420.jpg 670w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The .356 TSW was created for competition but was ruled into obscurity<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Smith &amp; Wesson designed this cartridge for IPSC competition. It\u2019s really nothing more than a 9mm Luger cartridge loaded in a stronger case that is 21.5mm long as opposed to 19mm. The .356 TSW is also loaded to 50,000 psi, but since the cartridge has an overall length similar to the 9mm Luger, it will still work in 9mm magazines. IPSC changed their rules, arguably because of the .356 TSW, and this threw a wrench in the works. Smith &amp; Wesson then tried to rebrand it for personal protection, sort of changing the meaning of TSW from \u201cTeam Smith &amp; Wesson\u201d to \u201cTactical Smith &amp; Wesson.\u201d It didn\u2019t work. Regardless, this cartridge is a screamer, and you can still get ammo from Underwood Ammunition.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Year of Introduction:<\/strong> 1994<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reason for Failure:<\/strong> Ruled out of contention.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-45-gap\"><strong>.45 GAP<\/strong><\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap.jpg\" alt=\"45 gap\" class=\"wp-image-298426\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap-670x420.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap.jpg\" alt=\"45 gap\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-298426\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/45-gap-670x420.jpg 670w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The .45 GAP was a great idea that no one seemed to care about.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Glock pistol changed everything. It took some time for shooters to trust a plastic pistol, but with almost coast to coast adoption by law enforcement, it rose to stardom. With law enforcement being a large portion of Glock sales and a tremendous part of their marketing, Glock thought it a great idea to offer their own cartridge\u2014one that would provide .45 Auto performance from a pistol with a smaller grip, so more cops could properly interface with it. Initially, the 45 GAP\u2014Glock Automatic Pistol\u2014received tremendous fanfare. A year later, hardly anyone cared, and a decade later, no one did. Oddly, Glock still offers three pistols in .45 GAP, possibly only because they do not want to admit it was a mistake.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Year of Introduction:<\/strong> 2003<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reason for Failure:<\/strong> Apparently, shooters and cops with little hands did not want to shoot a .45.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-17-mach-2\"><strong>.17 Mach 2<\/strong><\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2.jpg\" alt=\"17 mach 2\" class=\"wp-image-298427\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2-670x420.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2.jpg\" alt=\"17 mach 2\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-298427\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/17-mach-2-670x420.jpg 670w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The .17 Mach 2 is a very cute and zippy little rimfire cartridge, but it was not fast enough to outrun its lack of appeal.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In 2002, Hornady introduced the .17 HMR cartridge, which was based on the .22 Magnum cartridge case. It was an instant success and so popular that two years later Hornady introduced the .17 Mach 2 rimfire cartridge based on of the .22 Long Rifle case. Ballistically, the 17 Mach 2 fell right between the .22 LR and the .17 HMR\/22 Magnum, and while compromising ballistics can sometimes be a good thing, apparently this was a level of performance no one wanted. Currently, a major online retailer only lists two loads for the .17 Mach 2, and no one cares unless you were silly enough to buy one back in the day.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Year of Introduction:<\/strong> 2004<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reason for Failure:<\/strong> Too much and too little in the same package.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-25-45-sharps\"><strong>.25-45 Sharps<\/strong><\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps.jpg\" alt=\"25-45 sharps\" class=\"wp-image-298428\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps-670x420.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps.jpg\" alt=\"25-45 sharps\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-298428\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/25-45-sharps-670x420.jpg 670w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The .25-45 Sharps is an AR compatible cartridge that\u2019s ideally adapted for deer hunting, but it never found really got off the ground.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>There have been many attempts to create an AR-15 compatible cartridge that offered a ballistic advantage over the .223 Remington for deer hunting. That\u2019s why the .25-45 Sharps was created, and it uses a .223 Remington case necked up to accept a 0.257-caliber bullet. The goal was to duplicate the ballistics of the .250 Savage, and the .25-45 Sharps would do that with 87-grain bullets. However, the case was too long to work with the heavier-more-popular 0.257-caliber bullets most deer hunters preferred. I worked with the cartridge a good bit and even took it to Africa. But limited bullet options combined with the fact most modern shooters did not give a damn about the .250 Savage, doomed its success.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Year of Introduction:<\/strong> 2008<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reason for Failure:<\/strong> Had to compete with the .300 Blackout and was not supported by ammo and firearms manufacturers.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-30-remington-ar\"><strong>.30 Remington AR<\/strong><\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1.jpg\" alt=\"30 remington AR\" class=\"wp-image-298429\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1-670x420.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1.jpg\" alt=\"30 remington AR\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-298429\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-remington-AR-1-670x420.jpg 670w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The .30 Remington AR is a fantastic cartridge for big-game hunting with an AR-15 or a micro bolt action rifle, but it is quickly passing into obsolescence.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>At a time when the media was crucifying the AR-15 rifle for not being suitable for big-game hunting, Remington countered that argument with the .30 Remington AR. It would push a 125-grain bullet to 2,800 fps and a 150-grain bullet to almost 2,600 fps. However, Remington screwed up the introduction of this cartridge so bad it looked like it was intentional. It took two years to get guns to market, and during that time Remington introduced the .300 AAC Blackout with a much better marketing campaign. Additionally, Remington published a widely circulated advertisement showing .30 Remington AR ballistics. The problem was they listed the 300-yard velocities and energies as the performance from the muzzle.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Year of Introduction:<\/strong> 2008<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reason for Failure:<\/strong> Timing and marketing mistakes.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-30-super-carry\"><strong>.30 Super Carry <\/strong><\/h2>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1.jpg\" alt=\"30 super carry\" class=\"wp-image-298430\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1-670x420.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1.jpg\" alt=\"30 super carry\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-298430\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-1-670x420.jpg 670w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The .30 Super Carry (left) is just as terminally effective as the 9mm Luger (right), but gun manufacturers have not supported it.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This may be the most misunderstood pistol cartridge. It makes perfect sense because it offers 9mm performance with a 20 percent increase in capacity. Its ballistics are so good because Federal created great bullets for it, and they loaded it to 52,000 psi, which is 20 percent more than 9mm Luger +P ammo is loaded to. When tested in 10 percent ordnance gelatin, the .30 Super Carry performs almost identically to the 9mm. So, why is it not the most popular self-defense pistol cartridge in the world? One reason really: Glock. The .30 Super Carry has been around for three years, but Glock has yet to offer a pistol chambered for it. In fact, Sig Sauer, Springfield Armory and Ruger haven\u2019t either. Why? Maybe 52,000 psi is just too much pressure for those guns.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation.jpg\" alt=\"30 super carry hollowpoint deformation\" class=\"wp-image-298431\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation-670x420.jpg 670w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1021\" height=\"640\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation.jpg\" alt=\"30 super carry hollowpoint deformation\" class=\"lazyload wp-image-298431\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation.jpg 1021w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation-768x481.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation-150x94.jpg 150w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation-696x436.jpg 696w, https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/30-super-carry-hollowpoint-deformation-670x420.jpg 670w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1021px) 100vw, 1021px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The .30 Super Carry is a far better cartridge than sales suggest, partly because shooters don\u2019t understand it, but mostly because of lack of support from gun manufacturers.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><strong>Year of Introduction:<\/strong> 2022<\/p>\n<p><strong>Reason for Failure:<\/strong> No Glock, Ruger or Springfield Armory pistols and consumer misunderstanding.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Editor&#8217;s Note:<\/strong>\u00a0This article originally appeared in the July 2025 issue of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/gundigestservice.com\/customer\/subscribe.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Gun Digest the Magazine<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<p><strong>Raise Your Ammo IQ:<\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"code-block code-block-27\" style=\"margin: 8px 0; clear: both;\">\n<div style=\"border: 2px solid #e5e5e5; padding: 20px; border-radius: 10px; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-271572\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/44-Targetposters-pack-GD-reduced-300-300x235.jpg\" alt=\"44-Targetposters-pack-GD-reduced-300\" width=\"300\" height=\"235\"\/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload alignright size-medium wp-image-271572\" src=\"https:\/\/gundigest.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/44-Targetposters-pack-GD-reduced-300-300x235.jpg\" alt=\"44-Targetposters-pack-GD-reduced-300\" width=\"300\" height=\"235\"\/><\/p>\n<h2 style=\"color: #333; text-align: center;\">Next Step: Get your FREE Printable Target Pack<\/h2>\n<p>Enhance your shooting precision with our 62 MOA Targets, perfect for rifles and handguns. Crafted in collaboration with Storm Tactical for accuracy and versatility.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Subscribe to the Gun Digest email newsletter<\/strong> and get your downloadable target pack sent straight to your inbox. Stay updated with the latest firearms info in the industry.<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><script>!function(f,b,e,v,n,t,s)\n{if(f.fbq)return;n=f.fbq=function(){n.callMethod?\nn.callMethod.apply(n,arguments):n.queue.push(arguments)};\nif(!f._fbq)f._fbq=n;n.push=n;n.loaded=!0;n.version='2.0';\nn.queue=[];t=b.createElement(e);t.async=!0;\nt.src=v;s=b.getElementsByTagName(e)[0];\ns.parentNode.insertBefore(t,s)}(window, document,'script',\n'https:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/fbevents.js');\nfbq('init', '621304737315292');\nfbq('track', 'PageView');<\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In one way or another, all 10 of these cartridges are failures. Not every design ends up being successful. 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